So there is no way in which this war is defensive.Īnd what’s more, it’s also was an offense against communism, of course, but it has also been an offense against the third world.Įssentially, NATO was also set up as a bit of a rival to the United Nations, which the U.S. It launched it against its own Second World War ally.Īnd again, the United States did this, you know, launched the nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki as part of this launching of the Cold War. launched more or less single handedly before the Second World War was even over. The fact of the matter is it was created as part of the Cold War, which the U.S. It calls itself a defensive alliance, defensive. So we have to try to understand we have to sort of push through all of this to try to understand what it is. So basically, NATO is a huge topic and it’s surrounded by a considerable amount of smoke and a vast number of mirrors. PEPE ESCOBAR: It’s a huge honor and pleasure to be with you guys and with this fantastic audience, of course. He’s a Brazilian journalist, geopolitical analyst and author. Many of you will, of course, know who he is.
RADHIKA DESAI: And in order to do this, on today’s show, we are joined by none other than Pepe Escobar. RADHIKA DESAI: And today we propose to discuss NATO in the aftermath of its recently concluded Vilnius Summit, exploring a variety of questions about how its assault on Russia is faring and the prospects of extending its sphere of operations to what NATO leaders like to call the Indo-Pacific. RADHIKA DESAI: Hello, everyone, and welcome to the 15th Geopolitical Economy Hour, the fortnightly show on the political and geopolitical economy of our times.
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